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GeoffreytheSingedUser is Offline
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07/30/2006 6:16 AM Alert 
Greetings to the community.  As I look to upgrade my kit a bit, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on specific weapons/armories that are reasonably priced?  Personally I'm looking for something in a spanish cut hilt, but any suggestions would help.  Thanks.

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07/30/2006 8:56 AM Alert 
Define "reasonably priced".

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07/30/2006 10:06 AM Alert 
The new hanwei "practical" cup hilt rapier is beautiful, and the same price as the other rapiers in the line. It features a new blade which really addresses all the issues with the previous hanwei practical blades. It's thicker, stiffer, and looks more like a real blade. Handles beautifully.

Personally I dislike cup-hilts, but I'll be buying one of these.

Note that the blade hasn't been officially approved yet, as far as I can tell. You'll have to take a chance that it will be...

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07/30/2006 1:31 PM Alert 
As in, "Won't have to refinance the house".  >$300 is a good starting place.

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07/30/2006 2:51 PM Alert 
Are you sure you mean > and not

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07/30/2006 2:54 PM Alert 
To continue my post that got eaten by cyberspace.

What I meant to type was: Are you sure you mean > and not
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07/30/2006 6:04 PM Alert 
Let's try.. around $300.
Sorry for the confusion.

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07/30/2006 7:20 PM Alert 
Always check out Darkwood Armory.

Scott has reasonable prices and for my money has the best bang for the buck.

He stands behind his work and stays pretty close to his lead time.  Unless what you're after happens to be in stock (But he doesn't usually have much in stock.).

I can't say enough good things about Darkwood.

And no unfortunately I don't get a commission for recommending Darkwood (Darn it...)

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07/30/2006 7:37 PM Alert 
I'd second what Dormouse said. I got my rapier from Darkwood when I went to Pennsic a few years back and it has been great. I replaced the hilt, but that is all I have wanted to do to it.
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07/31/2006 7:26 AM Alert 
I tried to enter basically what Craig said, but 3 attempts got what you see above...oh well.

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07/31/2006 1:14 PM Alert 
While I don't own anything from darkwood, his work is amazing. http://www.darkwoodarmory.com/

If you're looking for a starter rapier, you might try his economy line!  All his guards are pretty much interchangable with hanwei's, del tins and darkwood blades, so if your blade ever does gives out or you decide to upgrade blades, with the exception of an angus trim blade, you shouldn't have to get a new guard.  Likewise, should you decide to upgrade guards, it should fit your new blade. 

The cheapest route, and the most annoying, is if you buy a bare blade and can find somebody to make you a guard for it.  Additionally, if you've got the skills to make a guard, all the better!

The thing to remember is, you get what you pay for.

Another popular alternative is James The Just, http://jamesthejust.tripod.com/ 

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07/31/2006 2:22 PM Alert 
Actually, Angus (Gus) Trim had been (and I believe still is) making a narrower profile tang available, specifically to work with at least Darkwood Armory's opening specs.

www.angustrimdirect.com

You would want to email Gus directly for clarification, though I will ask him tonight if he comes into OWMA for his usual visit.


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07/31/2006 3:48 PM Alert 
I do not believe that Gus is making these...

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07/31/2006 9:32 PM Alert 
Here's my suggestion. Go to Pennsic. Find people who have spent all their money on booze and nice things. Buy their cool blades for gas money so they can get home. Course, most trips to Pennsic cost more than $300, which just makes my suggestion stupid, but I've learned to be comfortable with that.

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07/31/2006 11:42 PM Alert 
Thank you for the wonderful suggestions.  I've been talking with a local smith who's willing to work with me on guards.  I think I'll just end up picking up some new blades for now.  Hopefully I'll have everything ready to show off for 12th Night.

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08/01/2006 1:32 AM Alert 
Awesome!  Lookin forward too seeing it when it's done!  

Just some tips I've learned through trial and error for the different parts!

On the guard, try and get the blade countersunk into the quillions, or use a block to keep the blade in line with the quillions.  Trust me when I say this: there's nothing more annoying than having your blade spin or twist out of line with your guard!  Plus, aesthetically it looks better.

Handles are easy enough to make, sledge hammer or axe handles make for a good starting point; they carve easy enough.  Just drill a hole through it, then widen as needed to fit the tang and carve the outside to size!

I still haven't got pommel making down to an art though.  I'm waiting on an inch and a half stainless ball bearing (that was fun to track down!)  to convert into a pommel.  I don't know how to tap threads, but I know someone that does know how too measure threads and tap holes.  I've been wanting to learn how to tap a hole, so this'll be a first!  I've seen it done, but never looked into it before.

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08/08/2006 11:51 PM Alert 
Gus was at practice, and he has a batch of blades that he is working on now, but they are all spoken for. If you get a new Gus blade, Scott can hilt it for you, as he has the standard pattern for them. I asked Gus about new blades and he said it may be 8 weeks out. FYI. Start saving now. 200+ range, but you'll need ask Gus.
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