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Mat
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| 11/26/2005 1:53 AM |
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I'm sure somebody here will know this; how were steel gorget's held closed (like, held shut around the neck?); a hinge/buckle combo, or something else? I've never actually had the chance to look at a steel gorget up close, and it's really the only thing that leaves me baffled.  |
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Dormouse
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| 11/27/2005 4:14 PM |
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<Doh!>
See below... I really must learn to proof read before hittin' submit...
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Dormouse
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| 11/27/2005 4:14 PM |
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Mine hinges on a rivet on the left shoulder piece, and is fastened by a "post and keyhole" on the right shoulder.
I've never had a problem with it not fastening, nor coming undone in combat.
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Hakim
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| 11/29/2005 12:00 AM |
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Really depends on the period the gorget was made. I have had the chance to go "back stage" at the Glenbow Museum in Calgary, Alberta in order to research actual armour. Generaly most plate armours' were fastened by a buckle, spring pin or a key hole.
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Mat
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| 11/29/2005 4:02 PM |
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Thanks guys! The reason I asked was because I'm trying to figure out the best way to build a gorget; My first attempt here (can't pot the pics, but the addresses are there) used a latch/hinge. it works, but it truly defines the word gehto; rolling the edges was fun, especially the corners
What I did wrong: I used an 1/8" rolled edge, but I'm thinking i should go with a 1/4" next time. the chest plate is too big; the back plate rests too high off the back (like, 1/2"); rather than leaving the conjoining shoulder pieces square with one-another, the chest and back pieces don't meet up perfectly (design flaw on my part), hence the gap you can see in the side views; one side of the collar portion rests higher than the other (Which can be seen on the latch side); foolishly and nievely, I built the chest and back plates before I built and sized the collar and whatever else!
rant aside, the next one will be way better; as this one goes, it isn't bad for somebody self-taught and who used a set of aviation cutters for the cutting, his leg and a chunk of railroad track for the bending; a pair of pliers and a hammer for the rolling, and a pop-riveter for the riveting.
Front
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/mb_welder/f.jpg
Back
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/mb_welder/b.jpg
Left Side
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/mb_welder/ls.jpg
Right Side
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/mb_welder/rs.jpg
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Hob
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| 12/01/2005 10:25 AM |
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Not bad at all Mat, much better than my first try. A couple of suggestions from my own gorget attempts:
* Make sure there is overlap between the front and back halves all along the seam. If the two halves don't meet neatly you'll end up with armor bites.
* For the closure, the trick is to take a solid brass rivet and use a grinder to reduce the diameter of the bottom half of the shaft. Hold it in a pair of pliers or you'll end up reducing the diameter of your fingers.  The thinner part of the shaft can go through a small hole in the bottom half of the gorget and be peened. This is a lot more secure than trying to peen a full rivet for the pin.
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Mat
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| 12/02/2005 3:16 PM |
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Hey, thanks for the Tips hob! I figured it would need overlap; it overlaps on the one side, but the hinge-side on the other hand...
must find brass rivets, I mean, I peen the backside of the pop-rivets anyway, so I may as well move to the real thing!
I've got my last theory test of my course to study for this weekend (Metallurgy; ACK!  ), but I should be able to work on my second attempt next weekend; making a key hole probably isn't as hard as it looks; drill two holes, one big enough for the rivet top to fit through, and the other big enough for the shaft of the rivet, then join em together.
...21 days left at school, then I can find a job again.  |
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Hob
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| 12/02/2005 8:20 PM |
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must find brass rivets, I mean, I peen the backside of the pop-rivets anyway, so I may as well move to the real thing!
Rivets by mail order:
http://www.mcmaster.com/
Do a quick search on their site for "Brass rivet". |
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